Wednesday, June 4, 2008

Barbaric united states advocates torture

Barbaric united states advocates torture.
Category: News and Politics
Seems I have made some friends uncomfortable and have attacked my blog on myspace(9sept.07-oct.31), I must have afflicted some very comfortable people democrap and repugnicon(dim and dimmer).

I stand by my content and for every one I post I have 10 stories waiting to be posted and I have other places and friends that will post for me if I cannot, my resolve is now even stronger to the get the word out about the hypocrisy.

Now that the u.s. advocates torture...........instead of a simple beheading of troops captured by the enemy, our soldiers will also be tortured first… unmercifully before death, and by our silence, we as Americans are really the ones doing the torture.

The path we are on is mass suicide. We send our youths to blow up foreign countries, protect their borders and leave ours wide open.


While the rest of the world grows to hate us for the untold damage/murder we do. The U.S. citizen is left at the mercy of dangers too numerous to list in this venue. Political correctness is doing its job; it is murdering Western civilization. Immoral relativism is winning … we are headed back to the jungle with little resistance because of the loss of our founding concepts. Enlightenment (education) has been snuffed, which means the death of individual freedom. Will the'Third World’ engulf us as the barbarians did Rome?

……here is one, John Edwards-AG can he contain the illegal/illogical/irrational depopulation newspeak? at the justice dept.? can anyone?


There is in northeastern Oklahoma, to this day, an American ‘Spanish/American war’ veterans colony. We can re-search shallow united states history. STUDY THAT WAR FOR NEW AGE CONCEPTS,CONCERNING EMPIRE BUILDING...Spain south American encroachment north continues to day


....look closer at ww#1 and these next history makers opine of the future....little, but convenience, has really changed in the new ideas/ideology schools, we are all still little islands of banded protection.

Sam L Clemens-
Citizenship? We have none! In place of it we teach patriotism which Samuel Johnson said a hundred and forty or a hundred and fifty years ago was the last refuge of the scoundrel -- and I believe that he was right. I remember when I was a boy and I heard repeated time and time again the phrase, 'My country, right or wrong, my country!' How absolutely absurd is such an idea. How absolutely absurd to teach this idea to the youth of the country......There has never been a just one, never an honorable one -- on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful -- as usual -- will shout for the war. The pulpit will -- warily and cautiously -- object -- at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, "It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it." Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers -- as earlier -- but do not dare to say so. And now the whole nation -- pulpit and all -- will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception. (samual was bff with n.tesla)


William Jennings Bryan-
Science is a magnificent force, but it is not a teacher of morals. It can perfect machinery, but it adds no moral restraints to protect society from the misuse of the machine. It can also build gigantic intellectual ships, but it constructs no moral rudders for the control of storm tossed human vessel. It not only fails to supply the spiritual element needed but some of its unproven hypotheses rob the ship of its compass and thus endangers its cargo.


Oliver Wendell homes jr-
It is only the present danger of immediate evil or an intent to bring it about that warrants Congress in setting a limit to the expression of opinion where private rights are not concerned....To allow opposition by speech seems to indicate that you think the speech impotent, as when a man says that he has squared the circle, or that you do not care whole-heartedly for the result, or that you doubt either your power or your premises. But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas -- that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out. That at any rate is the theory of our Constitution....I think that we should be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe and believe to be fraught with death, unless they so imminently threaten immediate interference with the lawful and pressing purposes of the law that an immediate check is required to save the country...Only the emergency that makes it immediately dangerous to leave the correction of evil counsels to time warrants making any exception to the sweeping command, "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."



No one will gain except the elite few who hold the reins of power, and history repeats itself over and over, always to the detriment of individual life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Our nation had its chance and squandered it; pity the young and those briefly to come.


During his confirmation hearings earlier this month, Mukasey said he believes torture violates the Constitution, but he refused to be pinned down on whether he believes specific interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding, are constitutional.

"I don't know what's involved in the techniques. If waterboarding is torture, torture is not constitutional," he said.

But after World War II, the United States government was quite clear about the fact that waterboarding was torture, at least when it was done to U.S. citizens:
[In] 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian. The subject was strapped on a stretcher that was tilted so that his feet were in the air and head near the floor, and small amounts of water were poured over his face, leaving him gasping for air until he agreed to talk.
"Asano was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor," Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) told his colleagues last Thursday during the debate on military commissions legislation. "We punished people with 15 years of hard labor when waterboarding was used against Americans in World War II," he said.

Mukasey's non-answer has raised doubts among Democrats, and even some Republicans, on the Senate Judiciary Committee:
[The] Democrats on the committee signed a joint letter to Mukasey, making sure that he knew what's involved, and demanded an answer to the question as to whether waterboarding is torture.
Then two days later, the doubts grew louder. Two key Democrats, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT ) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) both said publicly that their votes depended on Mukasey's answer to the waterboarding question.
Then it was Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) who saw an opening after Rudy Giuliani refused to call waterboarding torture ("It depends on who does it."). Most certainly it's torture, McCain said. When pressed, he stopped short of saying that he would oppose Mukasey's nomination if he didn't say the same, but he added to the chorus of those who professed to be interested.
Waterboarding has become an isssue because the Bush White House signed off on it as an interrogation technique — and thus moved the United States into the company of pariah states that permit torture — after the 9/11 attacks



2050 headlines

Here are some points to ponder, the year is 2050 and the headlines from your daily news hologram are as follows.

Official - fraud and waist in the Federal government now exceeds the Federal budget. (this happen sooner than 2050, like 2009?)

Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh largest country in the world, Mexifornia formally known as California. Anglo minorities still trying to have English recognized as Mexifornia's third language.

Global Freezing confirmed as a scientific fact.

Lesser Spotted Long Eared Owl plague threatens North Western United States crops and livestock.

Baby conceived naturally - scientists stumped.

Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.

Last remaining Fundamentalist Muslim dies in the American Territory of the Middle East (formerly known as Iraq/Iran, Babylon/Persia ).

Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 100 more years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.

France pleads for global help after being taken over by Jamaica.

President Chelsea Clinton has banned all above ground burials due to silicone leaching of ground water table.

George Z. Bush says he will run for President in 2056.

U.S. postal service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces mail delivery to alternate Wednesdays.

85-year, $75.8 billion study: Diet and Exercise is the key to weight loss.
Average weight of Americans below 250 lbs.

Japanese scientists create camera with such a fast shutter speed, they now can photograph an American politician with mouth shut.

Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.

High Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.

Average height of basket ball players now nine feet, seven inches.

All nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by end January.

Capitol Hill intern indicted for refusing sex with congressman.

Oklahoma IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent.

Florida voters, having trouble with voting machines, instituted mandatory relocation of all democrats to fema concentration camps for republicization.


Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association. April, 27 1961. John F Kennedy. "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control….


These comments were gleaned from different sites around the country and the world.
The People speak
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…….Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and then Iran? I reckon there is a limit to what the huge, decent majority of the world's Muslims will take. A strike like this wouldn't guarantee oil supplies, but it would assure eternal Muslim hatred of the west. Cruel, unnecessary and a damned stupid idea.

…….Maybe there will be an outside chance that when an order to war is issued it will be ignored. On the other hand maybe we need to get the war started so that the next civilization can start over. It would seem that we are a failed species and are incapable of making the proper connections to live within our environmental limits.


……….Of course they will attack Iran. They will also ignore Museums and head right to the oil fields to protect goo as they did in Iraq.

Incidents such as the flying of LIVE nuclear weapons over the US are staged to get us used to the idea that these weapons may be used. Can't wait for the fallout. Its obvious that the end of easily obtained Oil is coming. Bush will have to move to an island to be safe after his pres-dent-cy is over, if ever. He and the heartless one truly are Devils.

…….I am nearly overwhelmed by feelings of hopelessness and helplessness. No one outside of the neocons and Christian millenialists want a war with Iran, yet no one with any power seems capable or even interested in preventing it. I have yet to hear a Democrat stand up in Congress to demand that the President obtain Congressional approval before starting such a war, nor have I heard any threats of impeachment if he proceeds without it.

…….Anyone who thinks that the United States is still a democracy needs to be shaken vigorously until he comes to his senses.

…….Hey, here is a chilling thought: what if Bush declares martial law in the middle of his next self-manufactured crisis and suspends the constitution? Voila, it's not longer an election year and he can have all the power he wants. Can't happen here you say … that is exactly why it CAN happen here; too many people are complacent with this power grabbing, lying, duplicious administration. We get the government we deserve if we are not willing to stand up and do something before it's too late. Don't count on those spineless democrats. The window for political solutions in this nation is rapidly closing, leave us with only a revolutionary one. God help us all.

……It appears to me that the elite of both parties running the US Government apparently have decided that the American people will refuse to tolerate the inevitable decline in our quality of life and national power as the oil starts to run out. They are certain that it will cost them their power and wealth, so they want to defend that with all of their power.

Of course, many of us already understand the implications of Peak Oil and want to start working on preparing for the post-petroleum world now. That is not in the elite's interest, so they will fight it tooth and nail.

Therefore, they will continue to invade until the entire Middle East is either under US control or the whole thing blows up in their faces and into a shooting war: World War III. This, of course plays into the hands of the military-industrial complex, as well as the easily manipulated far Right Fundamentalists with their fears/hopes of Armageddon. Remember, their sick theology "predicts" this, so they will be cheering loudly as the blood gets deeper and deeper.

……I think that this situation may already be far outside the control of the American electorate, even if they knew what all of this really means.

As far as where the US would get the troops, it is already well-established that the US has been quietly arranging for a new draft for a few years now. A long bombing campaign gives them time to hurry a bunch of cannon fodder through basic training and into place. Remember, we have about 2 years of Dubya's administration left to go. That's ample time to do this if they start soon. Thus, no matter who is voted in after Dubya will face a fait accompli. The US will "own" 60% of the remaining oil in the world, and the US Dollar will be secured as the only currency for petroleum, thus securing its position and stability.

……The Democrats understand Peak Oil as well as the Republicans do, which is why they will make lots of noise but will be 'unable' to stop the current push towards war with Iran by the Republicans. They can 'blame' it all on the Republicans if they are elected, and if they lose there will BE no blame. Of course, many involved are in effect neck deep in what is essentially treason, but they think that they won't be caught or punished.

……..I believe Americans who oppose Bush's illegal, immoral and unethical actions, resulting in the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people, should start bringing this government to a halt. We should 1. refuse to pay taxes, 2. take to the streets in mass protest, 3. block access to US government buildings, especially those relating to war…how long are we going to tolerate this evil? The Democrats are worthless. We elected them IN January to end the war and they are more agreeable than the Republicans in handing Bush on a silver platter anything he wants.

Albert Einstein once said, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". I personally hope that we will not fulfill Einstein's prophecy.
keep fighting the good fight, with your minds a waeapons!!
.........................kosmicdebris.................

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